Analysis & Comment

Primary Questions for an Emergency Declaration

On May 24, a few of us met with Lancaster County Commissioner Rick Vest for a conversation and to review these five questions and to better understand his position on the COVID emergency declaration. The meeting was in response to a February 21 County Board meeting, my public comment to the Board on February 28, and Commissioner Vest’s interest in talking more. I appreciate Commissioner Vest’s willingness to meet, it was a good meeting. An abbreviated transcript of the February 21st meeting is below.

Questions – March 31, 2023

  1. From your perspective, what issues lead Lancaster County residents to advocate for an end to the county’s COVID emergency declaration?
  1. 1011 News, on 2/21/231, in reference to terminating the emergency declaration, quoted you as saying, “We use [emergency declarations] for a variety of things to ensure that we capture all of the federal funding that’s available,” Vest said. “Some of it comes to us directly, some of it comes to the health department. We just want to make sure we have completed the process and when it’s done we will gladly give it up.” Which specific regulation(s) mandates the terms the county must follow for this COVID emergency declaration, and stipulates the length of time this emergency must be declared in order to receive federal funds? When do you estimate the declaration will end?
  1. Could you foresee a point where changes in the terms for the receipt of federal funds for this emergency, or future health related emergencies – such as terms impacting policing, control of movement, or other mandates – would be too invasive or oppressive to accept federal funds? What terms do you feel would be too invasive or oppressive?
  1. How does the County Board coordinate with the City Council and Mayor on oversight of the Health Department staff and board? What gaps or overlaps do you see? What checks and balances are there to regulate administration of policies, procedures and outcomes?
  1. Given the following assertions by scientists regarding the virus challenge2 how do these assertions impact the current COVID emergency declaration? And, given the current state of censorship3, in what way has the county board, or you personally, considered these assertions in your COVID-related decision-making?
    • Terrain versus germs – The study and practice of terrain theory4 and holistic healing5 is, at the very least, as valid a pursuit as germ theory6. Holistic healers continued to treat patients throughout the last 3 years, as they always had.
    • Virus never isolated – A virus, as currently defined by germ theory advocates, has never been isolated and proven to cause disease.7 The inventor of the PCR test, Nobel Prize winner Kary Mullis, challenged the premise of HIV AIDS and never intended the PCR test to be used for diagnosing illness.8
    • Life-saving early treatment – The censorship and persecution of doctors, scientist, educators and others, who have testified before Congress, state legislatures, and elsewhere, on the life-saving benefits of early, effective, outpatient treatment of COVID-like symptoms continues.9
    • Refusal to treat – The practice of not treating respiratory symptoms until critical stages, and the imposition of questionable drugs and financially lucrative procedures on critically ill patients caused needless death and disability.10
    • Manipulation through fear – Acquiescence to fear-based germ theory outcomes, as necessary and protective, are largely responsible for our current state of affairs. Manipulation11 by the rich and powerful – to achieve complete state surveillance and control of life and of the means and methods of production – have engineered dependency through various initiatives including the breakdown of the individual and family12, transhuman biodigital convergence13, and eugenics-based depopulation14

Follow up questions

Who is the best person to contact to request a line item accounting of county and health department receipts and expenditures of federal COVID-related federal funding?

Does the County Board intend to clarify the written instructions on the agenda regarding public testimony?

“Those wishing to speak on items specific to today’s agenda are asked to do so when the item is called by the County Clerk. Each speaker is limited to five (5) minutes.”


Formatting in process

1 Febuary 21, 2023 Lancaster County Board coverage

2 The Virus Challenge – the debate between terrain and germ theory

  1. Béchamp or Pasteur: a lost chapter in the history of biology,” 1923, E. Douglas Hume with Dr. Montague Leverson “From far away Mexico, a request comes from Dr. Hernan Alpuche Solis to be allowed to undertake a Spanish translation of Béchamp or Pasteur? in order, as he puts in, ‘to publish the truth throughout the world’,” E. Douglas Hume, note to second edition 1932, page 5 Versus Béchamp: The History of Germ Theory
    1. Settling the Virus Debate” Statement, 2022, Thomas Cowan, MD, et al. virus-debate-statement
    2. A Farewell to Virology: Expert Edition,” 2022, Dr. Mark Bailey, MB ChB, PGDipMSM, MHealSc (Otago), microbiology, medical industry and health researcher who worked in medical practice, including clinical trials, for two decades.
    3. Part I – The Virus Misconception – Measles as an Example,” 2022, Dr. Stefan Lanka, German virologist
    4. Part II – The Virus Misconception – Measles as an Example,” 2022, Dr. Stefan Lanka, German virologist
    5. The no virus people,” 2022, Steve Kirsch, Founder, Vaccine Safety Research Foundation

    3 Censorship, propaganda and silencing

    1. Flood the zone” Event 201 sponsored by Johns Hopkins Bloomberg Center for Public Health, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Economic Forum – October 18, 2019, Matthew Harrington, specialist in corporate positioning and reputation management from the global public relations firm Edelman, responds to a question about how, and if, communication should be controlled during a pandemic. also think we’re at a moment where the social media platforms have to step forward and recognize their moment to assert that they are a technology platform, and not a broadcaster, is over. They, in fact, have to be a participant in broadcasting accurate information, and partnering with the scientific and health communities to counterweight, if not flood the zone, of accurate information because to put the genie back in the bottle of misinformation and disinformation is nigh impossible.” Matthew Harrington
    2. Disciplining healthcare providers – Attorney General Doug Peterson’s opinion to Dannette Smith, CEO, Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services who requested an opinion on whether it would be “deemed unlawful or otherwise subject to discipline” for a doctor to prescribe “off label use” medications for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19.
    3. The Gaeta Institute de-platformed – February 2023 an online holistic educator was removed from the platform Teachable
    4. Regulators move against two ‘misinformation’ doctors,
    5. Harold Hillman paid a high price in career terms for questioning,
    6. Doctor fired for treatment in Mississippi, and in Texas, And many others including outspoken doctors Scott Jensen of Minnesota, and Peter McCullough of Texas.
    7. The Disinformation Dozen – when a difference of opinion is described as hate speech
    8. Antitrust lawsuit for first amendment claims for censoring COVID-related content
    9. Scientist Dr. James Lyons-Weiler censored,

    4 Terrain theory

    1. Originally proposed that living entities called “microzymes” create bacteria in response to host and environmental factors; called “host” or “terrain” theory. Study now includes the study of information stored in light, vibration, electromagnetic fields, the fourth phase of water – how energy moves through matter creating chemical change.

    5 Holistic healing and education

    1. Foundation for Alternative and Integrative Medicine –
    2. Pacific College, holistic medicine guide for beginners –
    3. The Gaeta Institute – Natural Functional Medicine, Nature First, Drugs Last,
    4. International Academy of Biological Dentistry & Medicine –
    5. “Nourishing Traditions” Sally Fallon Morell, Weston A. Price Foundation:
    6. Children’s Health Defense –
    7. “Moving from Medicine to Health Care” Dr. Larry Palevsky on what health care might look like if patients weer the primary care provider of their own health – Weston A Price Foundation 2022 Annual Conference
    8. “The Fourth Phase of Water” 2013 by Dr. Gerald Pollack, bioengineering professor at the University of Washington
    9. “Human Hearth, Cosmic Heart” Dr. Thomas Cowan, holistic general medicine and former vice president of the Physicians Association for Anthroposophical Medicine
    10. EMF Center: Practical EMF Information for Everyone – education on electromagnetic radiation mitigation:
    11. “The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life” 2017, Arthur Firstenberg,
    12. Earthing: The Remarkable Science of Grounding –

    6 Germ theory

    The germ theory of disease is the currently accepted scientific theory for many diseases. It states that microorganisms known as pathogens or ‘germs’ can lead to disease, and that these germs or bacteria are not simply natures way of digesting and disposing of toxins.

    7 Virus Isolation

    1. The Emporer has No Corona” “Clearly, logic and common sense dictate that if you have not isolated the thing you are looking for there is no possible way to determine what the thing is made of or what it alone does.” Dr. Thomas CowanWe aim to develop and deploy robust diagnostic methodology for use in public health laboratory settings without having virus material available” Corman et all, January 2020, PMC US National Library of Medicine, Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus by real-time RT-PCR
    2. The Contagion Myth: Why Viruses (including “Coronavirus” Are Not the Cause of Disease 2020, Dr. Thomas Cowan and Sally Fallon Morell
    3. October 2022 UNL Virology Symposium A University of Michigan virologist, Kristin Parent, was asked if what she was observing was real and if virus does lead to an infection event. After some explanation, Parent said that her tests do lead to productive infection, but that she has not published these findings and that knockouts are really difficult. Parent’s slide indicates receipt of funding in part from the Burroughs Wellcome PATH Fund

    8 Kary Mullis, HIV AIDS and PCR testing

    1. How did they misuse PCR to estimate these supposed free viral RNAs?” 1990s, Kary Mullis, biochemist and recipient of the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his role in the invention of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) technique. “…If they could find this virus in you, at all, and with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in any body. It starts making you believe in the, sort of, Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else. Because if you can amplify one single molecule up to something you can really measure, which PCR can do, then there’s just very few molecules that you don’t have at least one single one of them in your body, okay. So that could be thought of as a misuse of it, just to claim that it’s meaningful.” “But, the real misuse of it is, you don’t need to test for HIV, you don’t need to test for the other 10,000 retroviruses that are unnamed, also in the subject, because somebody that’s got HIV, generally, is going to have almost anything that you could test for, because HIV is a fairly rare virus… To test for [HIV], and say that has any special meaning, is what I think is the problem, not that PCR has been misused.” “The measurement for [HIV] is not exact at all. It’s not as good as our measurement for things like apples, an apple is an apple. If you got enough things that look kind of like an apple and stick them all together, you might think of it as an apple. And, HIV is like that. Those tests are all based on things that are invisible, and the results are inferred, in a sense. PCR is separate from that, it’s just a process that’s used to make a whole lot of something out of something. It doesn’t tell you that you’re sick, and it doesn’t tell you that the thing you ended up with really was going to hurt you, or anything like that.” Kary Mullis
    2. Does HIV exist?” August 2020, Jon Rappoport,

    9 Life-saving early treatment – See Prepare, Treat, Sustain information sheet

    1. A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment” Association of American Physicians and Surgeons ,
    2. Treatment Protocols – Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance,

    10 Refusal to treat – COVID timeline testimony

    11 Manipulation through Fear– Engineered financial, social, military and health security dependency barring access to choice and informed consent.

    1. Propaganda,” 1928, by Edward Bernays, father of public relations, conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.” Edward Bernays, Propaganda, Pg 9
    2. Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, by Professor Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton. powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control…able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled…by the central banks of the world acting in secret agreements…Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England [and] Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world. In each country the power of the central bank rested largely on its control of credit and money supply.” Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, page 324
    3. Century of Enslavement: The History of the Federal Reserve,” 2014, by James Corbett Beyond the Basics” 2022 by James Corbett
    1. Larry and Carstens’ Excellent Pandemic” John Titus, Best Evidence, explains the coming of the central bank digitalcurrency’-excellent-pandemic: Larry Fink, CEO, BlackRock “Markets don’t like uncertainty, markets like, actually totalitarian governments were you have an understanding of what’s out there. Obviously, the whole dimension is changing now with the democratization of countries. And, democracies are very messy, as we know in the United States…” Agustín Carstens, Mexican economist and general manager, Bank for International Settlements, “Now in order of our analysis on CBDCs, in particular to the general use, we tend to establish equivalence with cash, and there is a hugh difference there. For example, in cash we don’t know, for example, who is using a $100 bill today, we don’t know who is using a MX $1,000 today. A key difference with the CBDC is the Central Bank will have absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression of Central Bank liability. And, also, we will have the technology to enforce that. Those two issues are extremely important.” IMF Cross-Border Payment – A Vision for the Future 00:23:00 (accessed 7/28/23)
    2. How and why Big Oil Conquered the World,” 2017 by James Corbett Oil in modern medicine, the ‘green revolution’, and the ‘gene revolution’
      1. Foundations for the Future of Technology and International Development” May 2010, The Rockefeller Foundatin and Global Business Network
    3. How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health,” 2020 by James Corbett

    12 Engineered dependency removing nutrients from food, adding toxins causing disease and hormone disruption, and controlling access to alternative healing.Access to non-fluoridated water, raw milk, and natural healing available only to those with the means to afford them.

    1. Removing nutrients from food
      1. Electrification and radiation without proper testing, safeguards or remediationNew Hampshire Commission study The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life, the 5G International Appeal, a recent 5G Towers Report, Cancer and key terms, reducing radiation from wireless sources
      2. Fluoridation of public water supplies, a toxic industrial waste byproduct National Toxicology Program report hearing April 11, 2023, Discovery of Phosphate in Florida A brief history of water fluoridation
      3. A review of fluoride and tooth decay findings – 1956: Russell Pogue to Paul Martin, Minister of Health, Ottowa, Canada
      4. Use of synthetic pesticides and herbicides War in the Soil: History & Polarization into Organic versus Non-organic Camps –
      5. Pharmaceutical drug proliferation – promoting untested vaccine schedule and hormone altering drugs “One Health,” theory – one drug for one disease National Vaccine Information Center The Vaccine Reaction Vaccines schedule for U.S. Children 28 doses in 1965 to 73 doses in 2020 The Highwire – vaccine news source
      6. Geoengineering weather atmospheric aerosol injection, The Dimming, Climate Engineering Documentary
    2. Regulating access to healing information and resources, surveillance, tracking and control
      1. Intelligence agencies building upon the national security apparatus with emergency health security laws 9/11 and Homeland Security – anthrax “The Biosecurity State,” 2022, Meryl Nass, M.D. with James Corbett, “The Global Pandemic Treaty: What You Need to Know, 2022, James Corbett, Nebraska Health Information Technology (HIT) Board
      2. Continued efforts to regulate supplements

    13 Transhumanism, Biodigital Convergence, Surveillence, and ESG Control

    1. Nebraska Health Information Technology (HIT) Boardsigned into law May 2021 requiring collection and reporting of health data from most health care facilities through a contract with CyncHealth, a member of the CARIN Alliance. CARIN is a multi-sector alliance developing digital identity credentials. In coordination with the Vaccine Credentials Initiative, CARIN, the World Health Organization, and the other global stakeholders, including the World Economic Forum, Microsoft, Salesforce, and MITRE are leading the development and implementation of the open source SMART Health Card Framework, part of the United Nations 2016 ID2020 initiative in response to SD Goal 16.9. In December 2020 the Alliance announced a “Digital Identity and Federation White Paper,” to provide information on their work to develop digital identity credentials in order to provide individuals access to their personal health information via an application of their choice. This ability for choice, they note, was accelerated by passage of The 21st Century Cures Act, the ONC Cures Act Final Rule, and the CMS Interoperatilbity and Patient Access rule.
    2. Nebraska Department of Motor Vehicles contracts with global identity firm IDEMIA to design and produce new security features for the Nebraska REAL ID compliant driver’s license or state ID. Muckrock public records request regarding the IDEMIA contract for mobile digital ID and Apple Wallet. State contract search for Idemia – 1/1/2017 $19.3M, 4/15/19 $45,9M, 12/1/22 $2.4M “DMVs are the best positioned government entity to lead the transformation of identity from the physical to the digital identity, particularly since the DMV is the one place where most Americans go through a robust identity vetting process.”IDEMIA is coining a new term for mDLs to now call them “mobile identity” or mID. mID is a biometrically authenticated identity bound to a verified device and digitally transmitted through a standards-based protocol.”
    3. The Endgame of ESG: Why it matters to Policymakers and Enforcers,Attorney General Doug Peterson’s
    4. CEPI funding nanotechnology, human DNA gene modification, and DNA and recumbent mRNA vaccines for COVID-19:
    5. ID2020 – “Identify is a human right,” the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in partnership with the ID2020 Alliance:
    6. William Binney affidavit regarding National Security Agency surveillance and use of social networks as filters
    7. DARPA research to decode biological circuitry and gene drives:,
    8. Ethical challenges of ubiquitous healthcare
    9. NIH comprehensive ubiquitous healthcare solution on an Android mobile device
    10. Australian Broadcasting “Leave No Dark Corner, social credit, policing, and population control
    11. Research in Body-to-Body Networks for ubiquitous healthcare
    12. Exploring Biodigital Convergence, Government of Canada
    13. RAND Corporation report “The Internet of Bodies: Opportunities, Risks, and Governance
    14. Postgenderism: Beyond the Gender Binary” 2008 Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies is an extrapolation of ways that technology is eroding the biological, psychological and
      social role of gender, and an argument for why the erosion of binary gender will be liberatory. Postgenderists argue that gender is an arbitrary and unnecessary limitation on human potential, and foresee the elimination of involuntary biological and psychological gendering in the human species through the application of neurotechnology, biotechnology and reproductive technologies. Postgenderists
      contend that dyadic gender roles and sexual dimorphisms are generally to the detriment of individuals and society. Assisted reproduction will make it possible for individuals of any sex to reproduce in any combinations they choose, with or without “mothers” and “fathers,” and artificial wombs will make biological wombs unnecessary for reproduction. Greater biological fluidity and psychological androgyny will allow future persons to explore both masculine and feminine aspects of personality. Postgenderists do not call for the end of all gender traits, or universal androgyny, but rather that those traits become a matter of choice. Bodies and personalities in our postgender future will no longer be constrained and circumscribed by gendered traits, but enriched by their use in the palette of diverse self-expression.” James Hughes, sociologist and bioethicist, and George Dvorsky, bioethicist, transhumanist, futurist
    15. Gender-Affirming Chest Surgeries Increase by Nearly 5x in Teens 2022 MedPage Today “Drawing on data from the Nationwide Ambulatory Surgery Sample, an estimated 1,130 chest reconstructive surgeries were performed on transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) adolescents [from 2016 to 2019]… Nearly all were masculinizing, with only 1.4% feminizing… Only about 100 of these surgeries were performed in 2016…Ages of the adolescents ranged from 12 to 17… A slew of recent data has suggested that gender-affirming care – even in early adolescence – is linked to improved mental health for TGD individuals.””
    16. U.S. Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size, Share & Trends Analysis Report By Gender Transistion and Segment Forecasts, 2022 – 2030 Grand View Research, a $1.9B U.S. market size “The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was valued at USD 1.9 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.23% from 2022 to 2030. The rising incidences of gender dysphoria and the increasing number of people opting for gender confirmation surgeries are expected to boost the growth during the forecast period.”
    17. What is the Trans Agenda 2021 by James Corbett explores the deeper agenda behind the recent push towards gender fluidity.

    14 Eugenics-based depopulation – sterilization through “gene therapy” and the desire by some to live forever

    1. TEDx Innovating to zero! Bill Gates, “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s heading up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care and reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” Bill Gates, former CEO Microsoft, investor and philanthropist
    2. The Ultimate Resource,” Julian Simon, 1981, believes the ultimate resource is the human imagination and argues against the need for depopulation.
    3. Agenda 2030 reference to the Programme of Action adopted at the International Conference on Population and Development, Section III, Interrelationships Between Population, Sustained Economic Growth and Sustainable Development
    4. The Eugenics Crusade,” PBS documentary, promotes that eugenics, at its peak in the 1920’s was packaged as a progressive quest for “healthy babies.” (1920’s term eugenics lost favor after WWII and was re-branded as planned parenthood and gene-based therapy)
    5. Harvard geneticist goal to protect humans from viruses, genetic diseases and aging, transcript
    6. Modern-day eugenics movement in California
    7. Eugenics to Transhumanism
    8. The Population Bomb 1968 Paul Ehrich
    9. Are There Limits to Growth.” 2021 by James Corbett
    10. Who Won the Bet of the Century” 2015 by James Corbett. In 1980 economist Julian Simon bet biologist Paul Ehrlich that the price of five commodity metals would decrease over the next 10 years. Pierre Desrochers, University of Tornoto Mississauga explains depletionism versus resourceship.
    11. Humans will achieve immortality in eight years Ray Kurzweil predicts that technological singularity will happen by 2045 “‘We’re going to be able to meet the physical needs of all humans. We’re going to expand our minds and exemplify these artistic qualities that we value.’…By the second decade of the 21st Century, we have become used to organs grown in laboratories, genetic surgery and designer babies.”

    Lancaster County Board, February 21, 2023 partial transcript

    Beginning at minute mark 0:08:45 of the video recording (at last check the video is not available), Item 4 NEW BUSINESS, A. Declaration in the matter of terminating a local emergency pursuant to Neb. Rev. Stat. § 81-829.50. (D-23-0001). Transcript beginning at 09:00 minute mark after the item is read by the clerk, no motion is made, and a member of the public begin to approach the podium.

    • Commissioner Flowerday: Are you gonna bring up something?
    • Commission Board Chair, Christa Yoakum: Is there a motion?
    • Commissioner Schulte: You can step forward and make a comment, if you like.
    • Flowerday: That’s traditionally, we have comments after there’s a motion.
    • Yoakum: Yeah, we need a motion to start this conversation.
    • Schulte: It’s actually been pretty common for us to have a conversation with people from the audience prior to a motion being made.
    • Yoakum: That’s been staff, who’s presenting information to us.
    • Deputy County Attorney, John Ward: Good morning, commissioners, that’s correct. Commissioner Yoakum, it has been traditionally staff making motions. To my knowledge, I’m not aware of a specific policy saying that members of the public cannot come up before a motion is made or seconded. But, that has been the long-standing procedure here.
    • Yoakum: Yeah, and I believe, and I mean, in my opinion, that’s a precedent we want to uphold, because sometimes we do have controversial items that come before us, and who should speak first, and those sorts of things. We need some decorum regarding that.
    • Flowerday: Yeah, it was always my understanding, I could be wrong, but it was always my understanding that we did a motion. Staff would speak, commissioners would speak, we would do a motion, and then if there was something to discuss on the table then members of the public could talk if they want.
    • Flowerday, it always has been staff.
    • Schulte: As I remember it, there’s been times when non-staff that have commented before hand. We’ve had people involved in the broadband that we’ve had conversation with before an agenda. It’s been pretty common practice to have a conversation.
    • Yoakum: They were people we were contracting with, they were subject experts that we had required to come.
    • Schulte: Are there any subject experts who would like to speak on this topic? Okay, come on up.
    • Yoakum: These are not subject matter experts that we have asked to speak before us, as a Board, to inform us on an issue. For example, with broadband they are informing us on the process and on the work being done. So, for that reason, I don’t think it’s proper.
    • Schulte: So when, just so I can understand, then when is it appropriate for someone to comment on something that’s on our agenda, from the public?
    • Yoakum: Well, typically, if there’s going to be a comment before we actually do a vote, we start with those who we’ve asked to come to provide us specific information, for example, broadband. We’re contracting with a company for that, we wanted them to give us some updated information before we went to vote.
    • Ward: And I would add, Commissioner, that traditionally after staff make a presentation and there’s a motion and a second, then if there’s an interested member of the public that’s the typical time for them to come up and speak.
    • Yoakum: Yes, I would agree to that.
    • Schulte: I understand that that’s the hope. That has not been the practice in my time here.
    • Ward: That has been our written practice, to my knowledge, and I’m gonna defer to the Chair, and I’m going to respectfully ask the Board to respect the Chair’s decision in this case.
    • Member of the audience, Samuel Lyon: Will we be allowed to speak at all?
    • Yoakum: I recognize there are people who came to speak on this issue, but because there has been no motion and no second yet, although that could happen, there will be no one speaking at this point, as well as during the public comment time I just want to note that it is on the agenda, and this is typically practice, is that no one speaks on an item that is on the agenda. However, there is public comment at all of our meetings and it could be appropriate to come at another point.
    • Lyon: I was invited here today.
    • Yoakum: You were not invited by the Board.
    • Lyon: I was invited by several members of the Board to come today and speak on an agenda item, by several members of the Board, to come here and speak on this agenda item.
    • Yoakum: This is really out of order. Do we have a motion on this item?
    • Schulte: I, there have been, it has been the practice that people have come up and spoken before an item’s been moved. It seems that’s highly appropriate to let the public speak on an item that is on the agenda. If that’s not the practice then the policy needs to be changed. We shouldn’t just use it at a time when it’s expedient for our particular view.
    • Yoakum: In all of the time I’ve been watching this Board, and we’re going back 30 plus years, we’re going back to before the sale of Lancaster Manor, when I was very involved with what was happening on this Board, they have operated on precedent, not always on a written policy… but certainly on this is our common practice, and respect for those practices.
    • Lyon: Is there an open comment at the end that, that we can speak on, if it doesn’t get a second?
    • Yoakum: There is an open comment, but if you’ll read the purpose of open comment is not to speak on any agenda item. That is, those wishing to speak on items relating to county business not on the agenda may do so at this time. And, so today, it would not be appropriate. Now another time, when it’s not on the agenda, it could be appropriate. Absolutely.
    • Lyon: Today it wouldn’t be appropriate because it will fail to get a second?
    • Yoakum: No, because it’s an agenda item.
    • Lyon: So we can talk about it today as an agenda item?
    • Ward: No sir
    • Yoakum: No, that’s very clear. It’s really inappropriate for you to be addressing the Board when it’s not an appropriate time.
    • Lyon: I was invited by several members of the Board to come here and speak to you today.
    • Schulte: That’s true.
    • Yoakum: Several items, members?
    • Lyon: Several members, yes.
    • Attorney “If I may, Commissioner Yoakum, you and Commissioner Schulte have valid points that yes, it’s not a current written rule that members of the public cannot speak. Commissioner Yoakum is correct that we don’t want a precedent of people coming up and speaking. And, to address your future concerns, and Commissioner Yoakum’s concerns we can amend the policy to make it staff only. It’s my impression that we’re at an obvious impasse here and we do need some resolution. And, I would just, again, ask that the Chair’s decision be respected. And, you’re absolutely free to make your motion, and your discussion, but it is not our historical procedure to have the members of the public testify at this point.
    • Yoakum: And, if this item gets a motion and a second then it would be appropriate, we can invite people to comment.
    • Lyon: But, unless it gets a second then community is gagged?
    • Ward: No sir, it’s just a separate meeting. It’s just, you come at a separate meeting. It’s not this agenda item. It’s not the public comment at this meeting, but it’s the next meeting.
    • Lyon: I’ve stood at this podium before, with this exact technique, where it’s on the agenda, but the agenda is suppressed or moved to tabled. So you can’t speak on it at the public comment portion, but you also can’t speak on it on the agenda item, because it’s been tabled. This exact podium at the City Council, on this exact issue, and the exact technique is being used.
    • Yoakum: And, that would be a City Council Meeting.
    • Lyon: And, it’s being used the same thing at this meeting, at this exact podium, for this exact issue. We can’t have a discussion about it?
    • Ward: You can sir, you can come to the next meeting.
    • Yoakum: Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying, yes.
    • Lyon: Why can’t we talk about it now? We have members of the community that would like to speak about it now.
    • Ward: Because we have parliamentary procedures, the Board is convened, and it’s not proper for you to make your statements at this time.
    • Lyon: It has been proper in the past, but you’re thinking about making a policy for the future to exclude it, but today it’s not excluded.
    • Yoakum: You are out of order and we need to move on with this meeting.
    • Schulte: I would point out that our policy does specifically say that we do not strictly follow parliamentary procedure. That’s word for word out of our…
    • Commissioner Vest: I just want to object here. I have a constituents meeting at 10:30 that they have asked me to drive to and attend on a concern they brought to me. We have a lot of business before us this morning, as well as the Board of Equalization meeting. I would like to see us… we’ve had clear direction.
    • Lyon: You have about seven constituents in the audience for a meeting with you today.
    • Vest: And, you know what, I’m glad to speak with any of you, you have… my phone number is public. My email is public. Reach out to me, I’d be glad to have this discussion. But this is not, it’s been clear, this is not the time.
    • Lyon: I called several of the Board members, and I was invited here today to plead my case. And I’m here today to plead my case.
    • Vest: If they invited you inappropriately, I’m sorry. If they don’t understand the procedures here, I apologize on their behalf. But you do not have the floor, sir.
    • Schulte: I feel that was a slander directed specifically at me, Rick, and I think that’s highly inappropriate.
    • Vest: I don’t know who invited this gentleman. I don’t know this gentleman.
    • Schulte: You just looked at me, you just whispered to me to stop this.
    • Vest: No, I did not, I said…
    • Yoakum: I didn’t hear that.
    • Vest: That’s not, you said I invited them, I said, quietly, I said you are not the Board, you are a member of the Board. I am not the Board. We need to move on.
    • Yoakum: We need to proceed with this meeting. Is there a motion on this item?
    • Schulte: I make a motion to end the COVID emergency declaration by approving Item 4A on today’s agenda. Minute mark 18:30.
    • Yoakum: Is there a second? Seeing no second, please proceed.

    Public Comment period 41:00 – 1:09:24

    Lancaster County residents that Samuel Lyon, Realtor and Republican Party leadership, and Commissioner Schulte claim were invited to speak on Agenda Item 4A.

    • Russ Barger, Attorney
    • Carleen Barger, Cardiac Nurse
    • Catherine Brooks, Pediatrician
    • Mary Beth Canning, MD, AAPS
    • Steve Steinkuller, Phd, retired, former Director of Pulmonary Medicine, Sleep Medicine, Bryan Hospital

    Meeting minutes including:

    Exhibits 4, Page 219, AAPS Open Letter from Physicians to Universities: Allow Students Back Without COVID Vaccine Mandate

    Exhibit 5, Page 225, Steven Steinkuehler PhD, email supporting an end to the emergency declaration